Don’t Box Me In: A Mini-Munch with the Bunch

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Call me lucky, but I recently found myself surrounded by a group of submissive males who wanted to adore, worship and serve me. Well, maybe it wasn’t just a matter of luck, since I was the one who threw the party and invited the guests.

Most likely envisioning a night of wicked use and abuse at my hands, they arrived –collars, cuffs, and leashes in hand—eager to be led to my dungeon. Perhaps they were disappointed that I sought insight rather than subjugation, revelation instead of servitude, but—true to slave form—they were perfect gentlemen, each and every one. Discreetly disposing of their slave paraphernalia and gallantly feigning admiration of my business attire, rather than the expected leather corset and thigh-high boots, they obediently (You can take the slave out of the dungeon….), took their seats as I brought out my ink pen and note pad.

So there we were: Goddess and slaves magically transformed at my whim (You can take the Goddess out of the dungeon….) into everyday people, sitting down for une petite tête-à-tête. Rather than demands, I had questions. Rather than peonage, I wanted answers.

Angela: Well gentlemen, here we are. Most of you, I have had the pleasure of dominating, or at least exchanging a few emails with. Some of you I’ve gotten to know even beyond the BDSM realm; and I don’t think I’m stretching it to say that we’ve become friends. Why don’t you start by telling me a little about whom you are in your regular lives, such as the work you do, your hobbies and interests, and just about anything else you would like our readers to know about you.

Samuel: Me? I’m actually a retired banker from the East Coast. Now, I live on the West Coast and am enjoying my second career running a small boating business that caters to tourists. I’m still married to my childhood sweetheart, our children are grown, and we’re enjoying the good life. We keep busy with reading, fishing, golfing, visits from the grandchildren, and haunting antique shops, which has become a full-blown passion.

Daniel: I guess I’m the proverbial bachelor in this group. I have a somewhat high-profile position with the legal department of a well-known company in New York, which, of course, I don’t dare mention. I am currently dating the girl of my dreams, so maybe my bachelor status will soon change. I collect art deco furniture and am a voracious reader. I jog on a regular basis. I enjoy movies, theater, good wine, good company and good food.

Nick: Hey, Daniel, I’m a bachelor, too! So that makes two of us! Ok, I’ll admit it, I’m the youngster here being 30ish, but I’m doing really well professionally. I have a great job with a global technical services company; we consult with companies all over the world, which means I am well-traveled for a guy my age. I also invest in real estate and am a pretty good black-jack player. I date fairly regularly, just haven’t found that special someone yet.

Robert: While I’m far from wealthy, I live a financially comfortable life. I’m a middle-aged, hard-working, attorney. I like my work and do it well. Like everybody else these days, I have too much to do and not enough time in which to do it. I guess I’m a typical guy-type in a lot of ways; I enjoy sports, a few beers now and then, and a game of golf here and there. I love my wife and kids very much; they really do mean the world to me! I have to say that I am a happy guy and am pretty much living the good life.

Jordan: You know, Angela, I really would prefer to be kissing your feet right now.

Angela: Jordan!

Jordan: Well, how about, will you marry me?

Angela: Jordan, behave your self!

Jordan: Ok, ok! Just for you, I will spill the beans. I guess I’m living my dream life in many ways. I am a theater director and drama professor at a southern college. I am a Shakespeare buff and have been lucky to direct a number of his plays. My wife is a semi-successful actress and costume designer in her own right and we’ve collaborated many times over the years. I’ve been blessed with healthy children (two successful adults of whom I’m very proud) and—believe it or not, because I can hardly believe it myself—five precious grandchildren. I play some tennis, swim regularly, and am a serious Viking fan, much to my wife’s consternation. Life is good.

Angela: Hmmm…a nice little gaggle of geese around this table, I’d say! So why don’t I throw some questions out to you, and let’s just see what types of ganders we gave here? When did you first realize you were submissive? And what was it that brought it to your awareness?

Nick: I first realized it when I was in junior high. While my father was the official disciplinarian in our family, it was my mother who imposed her authoritative nature on me; not so much for discipline, but control, mind control. She knew my emotional buttons and pushed them at will. In my culture, mothers are shown a great deal of honor. In the past, young men and women bowed down to their mothers and mothers-in-law, touching their feet, then bringing their hands to their mouths as a token of general respect. I am sure I Americanized and expanded on this so that it became much more in my adolescent, pubescent mind. Around that time, there was also a teacher at my school who was rumored to seduce young boys. This added to the mix, in that I began fantasizing about older, powerful women dominating, disciplining, and even molesting me.

Angela: Hmmm…I have a feeling that a few of the women here at Sex Kitten just might want to have a little private talk with you later, Nick.

Samuel: I actually had a submissive experience when I was 18 years old. This was at a time when nobody talked about these things. Everything was “hush-hush” back then and anybody deviating from the norm was considered a pervert. So, although it was intoxicating and overwhelming, I really didn’t understand it. It wasn’t until I was around 38 years old that it began making sense. It took me another 5 years to really understand that I was definitely a true submissive.

Jordan: When I was 16 years old, I worked a summer job at a park. My supervisor was always regaling me with stories of his sexual escapades. I was young, sex on the brain like any teenage boy, and his stories excited me. Perhaps that is what he wanted. Anyway, he finally took me home with him one night where he had me perform fellatio on him, and then took me anally. I lived in a fever the rest of that summer and was with him whenever I could be. Later, in graduate school, I read a local ad placed by a dominant man looking for submissive men. I answered that ad. He taught me true submission, tying me up, spanking me, and other things along those lines. When I finally graduated and took a professorship, all of that receded as I concentrated on my burgeoning career. But five years later I discovered that there were actually dominant women—a revelation! Once that became a part of my consciousness, it never left.

Angela: Of course, just like vanilla relationships, it takes all kinds and we all bring our unique perspective to the experience. Just how exactly are you, yourself, submissive? What turns you on, presses your buttons, and gets you going?

Daniel: For me, Mistress—oops! I mean, Angela—it’s all about a woman’s self-confidence, her innate knowledge that just by being female and using her feminine superiority, she can bring me to my knees. If she knows what she is doing, she can literally force me into subspace just by raising an eyebrow or tapping her foot. If she goes a step beyond that and slaps me, forget about it: I am putty in her hands. I tend to like humiliation, being “put in my place.” I have a bit of an ass fetish, so it ups the ante if she makes me kiss hers. Emasculation is a major turn-on for me, too: Being made to wear her panties, coerced into homosexual acts, or forced to belittle myself in front of her/our friends. A lot of mind/power games, I guess that’s what I’m trying to say. Oh, and I like strap-on training and whippings, too. Women in leather are hot; they ooze power!

Robert: Tease and Denial with a strong element of humiliation is a good start. Foot and shoe worship, ass worship, a collar and a leash. I really like being made to admit my “dirty” desires and my slave status. While I can take some pain such as light CBT or nipple torture, it works for me only when used to show me how my Mistress can get me to do just about anything for her. I don’t really like the forced-femme angle, except being made to buy and wear panties, probably because it implies ownership: Her ownership of my sexual organs.

Nick: It isn’t so much the physical for me as it is the psychological mind control. This woman—usually a boss, an aunt, a teacher (an authority figure)—uses her seductive voice and feminine ways to disarm me and then manipulate me. She doesn’t have to yell. Stern commands and perhaps a light spanking will suffice. Little or no equipment is necessary for me. Maybe some light verbal humiliation, being occasionally tied up with scarves or nylons, or some hot wax. I don’t want her harsh. I don’t want her loud. I want her sweet, sexy, seductive, and sensual. In other words, I want her to be “all woman.”

Samuel: The number one key for me is humiliation. I want to be told how dirty and low I am. The second key is homosexuality. Not only do I want to be forced to service men, I want to be berated and debased the entire time. I want to be used—that is why I am a slave! My only purpose is to be used for another’s pleasure. My orifices are for men to use at my Mistress’s invitation. While I can take and do like a moderate amount of pain such as CBT, this must be used as an enhancement and reinforcement to the humiliation and forced homosexuality.

Angela: CBT? Samuel, you’ve been holding out on me. Just you wait until the next time I get my hands on you. And get that sheepish grin off your face!

Jordan: He’s still smiling, Angela. And Daniel was staring at your ass when got up to get a glass of water.

Angela: So how have you actually been able to engage the submissive sides of your personalities? Do you call Phone Dominas? Have you sessioned with Professional Dominatrixes or played with a significant other? How often do you get to act on your desires? If you are married or have a significant other, are you able to “play out” your submissive desire with them?

Nick: I am probably going to sound lame here, but I’ve never been to a Pro Domme. Once, I did hire an escort whose orientation was fetish and domination. She actually was very good and had all the “toys.” It was my first and only experience in an actual dungeon. I had a fantastic time with her, engaging in foot worship, bondage, spanking, and things like that. I got lucky with an ex-girlfriend, too. Before we became a couple, we were friends and had actually discussed our fantasies. One night we were in bed when she (remembering our long-ago conversation) grabbed my genitals and said, “These are mine. Understand?” I do believe I fell in love with her right then. Unfortunately, she moved out of the country, but until then, we really had many wonderful times exploring the Dom/sub part of our relationship.

Daniel: I have been to Pros over the years. Sometimes it is really good, sometimes—it’s not so great. While the Pros are usually technically astute, a lot of times they just don’t get how important the verbiage is to the session. It adds so much, especially in my case, because the humiliation aspect is so important to me. Most likely because of that very thing, I can get by most of the time by calling a Phone Mistress. Again, some are more talented than others. Like someone said earlier, it isn’t about yelling and screaming. Some of the Mistresses I’ve spoken to over the years just don’t seem to get it. And I did have a one-on-one, personal relationship with a local Mistress a couple years back. It lasted for eight or nine months and I had high hopes that it might even develop into a long-term thing. But life got in the way and that just didn’t happen.

Samuel: My wife has no idea I am submissive. When we got married, I didn’t even know or understand this about myself. And even once the light started dawning, it took years for me to actually figure it all out and get a handle on it. Once I’d come to terms with who I was sexually, I really couldn’t bring it to her and just dump it in her lap. Luckily, I have a good friend who is also dominant and she has been willing to help me explore this side of myself. I am able to visit with her once in a while and it is always a mind-blowing experience. I have visited Professional Dommes on and off over the years and, frankly, was usually disappointed. Like Daniel said, the phone is a good tool for “humiliation junkies” if we find a Phone Mistress that does it well. I use that avenue selectively, but most of the time with effective results.

Robert: I am lucky in that I do have a wife that is willing to “play” D/s games with me in our bedroom. Over the last few years I’ve seemed to need more. I would say that, on average, I’ve seen either a Professional Dominatrix or an escort about every two months or so. Since Tease & Denial is what really rocks my boat, I am probably looking for the perfect blend of these archetypal women. Of course, escorts are usually about “giving” rather than “denying,” and I actually have to educate them about the tease-denial dynamic. On the other hand, a lot of Dominatrixes are about rules, bondage, punishment, and pain. They are used to assuming the dominant role immediately, rather than seducing the slave into submission. I’ve actually been experimenting with instant messaging sessions on the Net lately with some pretty good results. It seems to facilitate the tease and denial stuff pretty well.

Jordan: While I revealed my submissiveness to my wife early in our marriage, it just wasn’t something she was capable of appreciating. The marriage has lasted, she is a good wife and mother, and I love her. But I do have this side that needs quenching; so over the years I’ve tried to find ways to do just that! Over a period of a couple years I saw two separate Pro Dommes at least a half dozen times each. In each case there just came a time when it was time to move on. I’ve had a fair amount of phone domination and I’d have to say my best experiences with Dommes have been over the phone. I learn a great deal from these women…about myself, about them, about D/s in general. Of course, this does have its limits, as there is only “virtual” physical intimacy, which can be frustrating. Yet, there is a certain anonymity that is actually quite freeing and can be incredibly powerful.

Angela: Tell me about what you do with and/or for your submissive side on a day-to-day basis. What about the times when you aren’t acting it out with a Dominant Female? Do you just tap into it on “special” occasions? Or do you keep it alive and ticking every day by reading, or fantasizing, or surfing the net? Perhaps….none of the above?

Daniel: I used to like reading stories/fantasies about BDSM. Penthouse Variations used to carry an occasional FemDom story and some of them were pretty good. But it has been a while since I bought a copy. Like most of us are want to do, I fantasize now and again. I will check out the Internet occasionally, but usually get frustrated with the over-the-top crassness, the pornographic emphasis on everything and just give up. I have found a few good story sites, but even then, you have to sift through the authors and stories to find what appeals to you.

Jordan: The porn on the Net that is presented as Domination is repetitive, banal, predictable, and finally pretty boring. Now, when I look on the Net, I am looking for a good partner and a compatible relationship of which D/s is a major component. What can I say? While it can be stimulating, it is mostly frustrating. Nonetheless, it keeps me in touch with my submissive side. And when you know in your heart that you are submissive, that is very important!

Nick: The mind is a powerful thing. For me, the fantasies in my head are usually quite sufficient. Like everybody else, I surf the Internet. I am like Daniel in that regard, as I prefer stories, rather than pictures.

Samuel: I check it all out—fantasy, books, Internet and anything else out there—but for the mental stimulation.

Robert: Ditto!

Angela: Well, you pretty much all agree that verbal and mental stimulation are major parts of your fantasy and real submissive lives. Let me ask you this: What about fetishes? Do you have them? Are they important to the D/s experience for you?

Samuel: While dildos, leather, cuffs, chains, butt plugs, and all of the rest the equipment can be a turn on, I have to reiterate here that for me it is the humiliation angle. I want to be called names (whore, slut, bitch), particularly in front of others. I want others to see what my Mistress has forced me to do. And to witness how willingly and eagerly I do it.

Robert: He’s absolutely right. It’s funny because Samuel and I are very different when it comes to what types of slaves we are and what kind of Mistress we need. Yet, we both really need our Mistresses to talk to us, to point out our submissiveness to us. The terminology that will get each of us going is quite different from the others, but we need to hear it all the same!

Daniel: It’s almost like that is the only way to make our submission complete, to validate it, to make it real. In other words, Mistress has to say it for it to come true. But, along with that, I do have a thing for leather. It just makes a woman look so powerful. Add to that a pair of thigh-high boots and I am totally at her mercy. And I don’t mind if she is bitchy, too. In fact I kind of like a cruel streak in a woman.

Nick: While I agree with my fellow slaves that what the Mistress says is very important, I also have a few other turn-ons. For me, feet and legs are the most important aspect of BDSM. This is, after all, how I worship this beloved Goddess. At her command, I crawl to her and lick the soles of her beautiful feet. Bondage is important, too. So that I am immobilized as she “has her way with me.” Not to mention some nice cock and ball bondage thrown into the mix! I prefer soft fabrics for binding such as scarves and stockings. Of course, many slaves like metal rings, leather cuffs, chains, and such.

Angela: In a perfect world, what would be your ultimate Domination scenario?

Samuel: That’s an easy one! To be totally used and abused by my Mistress. To be whored out by her for the world to see. To be forced to suck cock and to be anally raped while everybody watches.

Nick: I have so many fantasies about this that I could go on forever. Basically, it would start with an older, powerful woman catching me looking at nude pictures and masturbating. Of course she would have to admonish and punish me. She’d order me to remover my clothes. “You like naked girls?” she would say. “Well, I like naked boys! Get your clothes off now!” Once I was naked she would “inspect” my body, perhaps noting my small penis size. From there she would tickle, prod, and tease. At some point she would put me across her lap, making sure my penis is between her thighs and administer a spanking. I would be totally at her mercy. There is a lot more, but I think you get the picture.

Jordan: These days I tend to think in the long-term. Rather than pondering a scene or a scenario, I am titillated by the possibility of being a 24/7 slave. I like the idea of being molded, revealed, and transformed. This wouldn’t be about me, but about my Mistress. I could never forget, even for a second, that I was her slave, that I belonged to her. She could train me, perhaps even to the point of obsessive Pavlovian obedience. My only purpose would be to fulfill her every wish and desire.

Robert: Geeze, Jordan! Are you an ass-kisser or what?

Jordan: You’re confusing me with Daniel. He’s the one with the ass fetish.

Angela: Ok, I need to tie things…

Daniel: Me, me, me, Mistress. Tie me up!

Nick: Oh, Miss Angela, I have some silk scarves in my car.

Robert: No, don’t listen to them. Tie me up! I will be such a good little slave.

Samuel: Mistress, I have some strong nylon rope down on the boat.

Jordan: Oh, Goddess, if it is what you wish, I will kneel before you.

Daniel: This is not fair! I asked her to tie me up first!

Angela: Stop pouting, Daniel. Nobody is getting tied up. What I was going to say is that I need to tie up this little round-table interview. Why don’t you each just say something pretty for me? Just say something sweet and nice and pretty about BDSM in general, or how you feel about our time together today, or even some last thoughts you might have. Go ahead. Who wants to be first?

Nick: I just want you to know how much being able to talk with you about this meant to me. I am grateful that someone out there cares to listen. You are absolutely awesome, and I think you really understand and appreciate the male submissive. Please thank Sex Kitten for having us and send them my best wishes.

Daniel: I think you said it best when you said to me a while back that true dominants respect and cherish their slaves. I’ve always felt that from you, which makes it easy to take your abuse when you’re dishing it out. And I thank my lucky stars every day that you sure do know how to dish it out!

Samuel: This was really a lot of fun. But you always know how to make things fun. In fact, I count on you for that! You beat me up, then make me laugh. What a deal! Thanks!

Robert: I guess what I would like the readers to know is that we of the BDSM ilk are as uniquely different from each other as “vanilla” people are. Resist the urge to “box us in.” As you can see by this group, it comes in a veritable rainbow of flavors. And this was only five of us. Multiply that number exponentially and the possibilities and variations are just about endless. Another thing is that we are constantly evolving, testing boundaries, trying new things. Frankly, I wouldn’t want to be any other way.

Jordan: D/s, is an extravagantly romantic gesture in a lot of ways. If you take a close look at a slave, what you see is really just a modernized version of Prince Valiant, Don Juan, or Prince Charming. Give us a chance, ladies. There are millions of us out here and we’re waiting to serve you!

© Angela

 

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