In a Darker Context -- The Cathartic and Misunderstood Nature of Horrific Art ~ Sex~Kitten.Net Discussions


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In a Darker Context -- The Cathartic and Misunderstood Nature of Horrific Art

In this fast-paced technological age, when one looks around and observes the current state of our planet, one has to ask: Have our natural human instincts become so intermingled with the teachings of civilized society that we have forgotten where our inbred nature ends and the conventions of socially accepted "norms" begin?

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DeeDee Envied By All	Posted 02:39pm 09-27-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	I found myself shaking my head at the overzealous and hasty reaction of this secondary school’s administration, and applauding my friends for their kind-hearted extension of support to this young man. Instead of banning this youth’s creative compulsions, shaming and ostracizing him for his natural creative affinity toward horrific art, why not encourage this desire to create with words? And if the teacher and administration did harbor genuine concern for this boy’s mental state after reading his grisly tale, why wasn’t a tactful meeting called with the young man to assess his state of mind, and any possibilities of abuse? Instead, this child was persecuted for his natural talents, shamed as if he had committed a crime. I felt a chill go through me when I read of this event, and witch trials from our brutal, superstitious past wafted through my thoughts. As a parent, I am glad you mentioned looking into the reasons 'why'. While I am all about encouraging creativity, and anti-censorship, I would be concerned if my child began such dark pursuits. Many therapists could use the art/writings to work through the problem and visions/depictions could allow the child who was suffering with something a outlet for control. Will modern society return to the days when one was persecuted for being different, for living an alternative lifestyle? Yes. Well, it is happening. Not that I like it.


Jewel Makes Men Drool	Posted 11:19pm 09-27-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	I really do appreciate your thought-provoking article and thank you for sharing it with us. Taking up DeeDee's thread, I would shudder to think what would happen to Poe in today's school system. Having read the obligatory Halloween stories of mayhem in the auditorium for so many years, I know that a teen's writing is a way of dealing with every-day stress. And even the most novice of administrators can and should be able to tell the difference between fantasy and a real threat. Yes, we are being persecuted for being different, but I believe (hopefully not in vain)that the pendulum is swinging back to a more tolerant way of thinking and we all have to do our best to return to a humane way of co-existing with our fellow beings and a tolerance that allows each of us to find our own "bliss."


Angela Makes Men Drool	Posted 08:07am 09-30-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	"Milton’s argument was that repression led to obsession.[i] With this radical view for his time, Milton asked: How can we know true evil if we cannot put a face to it? If our people have never experienced evil in any form, how can they separate evil from good, and how will they know how to be pious and prudent if they cannot envision what is low and base?[ii]" Yes, yes, yes. I really think everytime we "repress" (disguised as "protect") we are robbing others of the intellectual and spirtual growth so necessary to life, itself. And it dumbs us down as a people, a society. Thank you so much for this article. Please come back often...pretty please?


Louise Kitten In Training	Posted 10:27pm 09-30-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	Hi ladies~ My apologies for not getting my butt over here sooner. I wonder if Gracie will spank me now? ;) Thank you for your comments! Dee Dee - Many therapists could use the art/writings to work through the problem and visions/depictions could allow the child who was* suffering with something a outlet for control* Exactly, Dee Dee. I know, coming from a less-than-perfect background, darker art has always helped me work through a lot of my problems, and has provided me with a positive outlet for aggression, on and off, throughout my life. Who would I have been without that outlet? Don't know if I want to think about that...Robbing someone of a healthy therapeutic outlet is just rash and ridiculous. To get to the heart of something like this, the teacher should've looked deeper, rather than acting impulsively, imho. Jewel - Taking up DeeDee's thread, I would shudder to think what would happen to Poe in today's school system. Having read the obligatory Halloween stories of mayhem in the auditorium for so many years, I know that a teen's writing is a way of dealing with every-day stress. And even the most novice of administrators can and should be able to tell the difference between fantasy and a real threat. So very true, Jewel, and an excellent example! Adolescents go through an extreme amount of internal chaos--emotionally/mentally and horomonally--when they reached that stage of maturity between a child and between an adult. Sometimes, they have to interpret that chaos through, perhaps, darker art forms, or alternative art forms. It doesn't mean they are going to be a mass murderer when they grow up. It simply means they choose an alternative to the average. I know I interpreted my teenage years through a darker lens, and I am a fairly well adjusted, albeit quirky, adult. :) Yes, we are being persecuted for being different, but I believe (hopefully not in vain)that the pendulum is swinging back to a more tolerant way of thinking and we all have to do our best to return to a humane way of co-existing with our fellow beings and a tolerance that allows each of us to find our own "bliss." In terms of subcultures and the underground, alternative mediums of entertainment in general, I am seeing a huge outpouring of acceptance and support! I can't help but be leary of the mainstream, but then that is a bias that comes from some stories in my past, so I admit I am not entirely without my biases. grins But, I am hopeful for the future. I like to think the human race is intelligent enough to learn how essential tolerance is to our evolution of society. :) Angela - Yes, yes, yes. I really think everytime we "repress" (disguised as "protect") we are robbing others of the intellectual and spirtual growth so necessary to life, itself. And it dumbs us down as a people, a society. Thank you so much for this article. Please come back often...pretty please? I could not agree more, Angela! As I said somewhere else recently, I was very lucky growing up, in that, although my parents weren't perfect, they did let me grow up in a very individualistic environment. My father always told me, "Never say you can't. You can do anything." And, I think carrying that motto with me over the years has helped me to develop into the individual I am today. Now, what if he had tried to mold my mind into what he wanted me to be, or if my mom had tried to do the same? I am grateful I was given some liberal freedoms to find myself as a person, growing up. And I think all human beings should be allowed to learn through experience. When we repress, or "protect", we atrophy the human spirit and intellectual potentials. And yes, I will indeed come back often! :D Or Gracie may spank my bottom red! hehe Besides, I've been browsing the articles here, and this place is just to great not to hang out at! (P.S. Angela - I caught the show you and Gracie put on! hehe It was quite a show, indeed! When is the next showing? grins) Best Always, ladies! Louise xoxo


Gracie Makes Men Drool	Posted 04:52pm 10-01-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	Will modern society return to the days when one was persecuted for being different, for living an alternative lifestyle? Why should horror authors be exempt when those of us who just don't do missionary for procreation reasons are persecuted? Damn unfair and it does dumb us all down. But hey, I don't make the rules; just break them :p (Louise, perhaps you can come play at our next party/show? In spirit with the season, and in honor of your fine self, we could have a Whores and Horror theme wink)


Louise Kitten In Training	Posted 09:15pm 10-01-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	I was wondering when you would show up here, lady. ;) Ahh, I say horror and erotic authors should get in bed together. I mean, why not? Both genres are persecuted, and we definitely have more fun than the straight-laced genres! grins (I would love to come and play at the next Gracie and Angela show. Ohh, Whores and Horror! Where'd I put that low cut Elvira number??? ;)


tony sacre Marlboro Man	Posted 05:30am 10-02-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	Ahh, I say horror and erotic authors should get in bed together. I mean, why not? Both genres are persecuted, and we definitely have more fun than the straight-laced genres! grins I like this Louise kitten, does she write anything short tho? took me a whole bottle to get thru the article, then i couldn't see to read the end;) loved it. Very intresting and dare I say erudite, that's like saying abracdabra and puff up pop JJ. Oh hello mate I was just saying how well you'd get on here... Jake I hear a rumour, a whisPURR even,that PURRobably~ no twas just a suPURRcilious rumour...


Louise Kitten In Training	Posted 11:45pm 10-02-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	Thank you, tony. :) I write shorter stuff than this here article, and you can find one of my shorter tales--erotic horror too--in the last issue of Wicked Karnival 7. Hope that link shows up all spiffy-like. ;) You're eccentric! I like you!


Gracie Makes Men Drool	Posted 12:12am 10-03-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	Here's the correct linkage: WickedKarnival.com (Psst, don't encourage Tony to be more eccentric... we're already worried about him! :p )


tony sacre Marlboro Man	Posted 02:50am 10-03-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	Hi Louise I think we'll get along, me eccentric me,I dont think anyone around here would agree with you on that, Raise your hands any one who would, I see Tess is jumping up and down waving a flag, now she has a flag in each hand, Okay, Okay! Eccentric bleeding cheek of the woman, see JJ you may be erudite but me I'm eccentic is that good? Gracie called me Expendable once I thought that was pretty cool. I've been called some names in the past, but nothin, no nothin beats 'Melodramatic Wanker Boy'now that takes an aweful lot of beating, an aweful lot of class and an aweful lot of beautiful red hair. But you know the sad thing, she's probably right! Does that make me crazy,probably~Gnarls Barkley


Louise Kitten In Training	Posted 01:53pm 10-05-06 (Score: 3, 'You Don't Say! ')
	Hahaha! Oh yes, Tony, I think you and I will be great, eccentric mates! hehe ;) I am quite crazy, but I still manage to elude the men with butterfly nets...for now, at least!